First, I'd like to confirm and support what Mr. Pagan said. It's not the Treasury Board's responsibility to come up with the performance indicators, it is up to the lead department and the partner departments and agencies to do that. However, they have a role to provide guidance. Very quickly, just as an example, if they get together and say this is the state of play and the partner departments provide some information, who is there to ask if it's enough or if it provides a really good picture? Does the lead department take the chart and say it's not meaningful enough and to go back, or do they just take it and then collate and publish it?
There is some clarity in the margin in saying how we can move forward. Who is really responsible for having that consolidated view? Arguably, the lead department and the partner departments have that responsibility jointly, but who does what? Perhaps some additional clarification from the centre might help. It is not Treasury Board Secretariat that needs to come back with all these performance measures, and they're not responsible for the horizontal reporting.