If you go back to what you described as my “bring-and-brag” report, we recognize very clearly that there are gaps. We're working to encourage more elders to come into the system. We're working to ensure that our aboriginal liaison officers...in our management action plan you'll see our plan to train the ALOs and the ACDOs to do that.
One of the challenges we had with the elders is that although they're very good at engaging offenders, documenting what they did was a challenge. We had to assign staff members to work with the elders to capture what they were doing.
There is no question.... I'm not saying that we're perfect—far from it, and please don't interpret anything I say—