Yes. That's where I was going to go, that they should both be here.
Given the fact that...I mean, fine, we can get into it if you want, but this meeting has been postponed twice now and the purpose was to have the deputy. I don't know whether it was for you or for the other. I am assuming it's the other. I've never run into this before where there are two deputies. There is either an associate deputy minister.... I have to say that's new to me, and I've been a minister provincially.
It still speaks to the amount of trouble we've had to get your colleague here. We went through all that hoop jumping in order to get someone here that now you're telling us maybe didn't need to be here. It still speaks to a lot of confusion about who is going to be here, who should be here, and who is legally accountable.