I think Mr. Nuttall's frustration about this, without putting words in our Auditor General's mouth but paraphrasing him when he tabled these reports in the House of Commons, is that too many federal government programs do not seem to measure success in terms of how they affect Canadians. He said this not just about this department, but about other departments in government as well.
What Mr. Nuttall has said is that we do the data analysis, we pinpoint the money and where it's going, the issues, and all of that, but really, what it boils right down to is the effect on Canadians. That's where we have to take data. We have to improve it on the people side.
All right, Monsieur Massé, I think you may have the final say today. Go ahead. You have five minutes.