Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, I will be splitting my time with Mr. McCauley.
I have a follow-up question, and perhaps it's just to provoke thought rather than to get a definitive answer on it. You go through the auditing process, which we know is incredibly important to Canadians, to our democracy, and to ensuring that there's not an abuse of power either by politicians or by bureaucrats, or that the rules that are intended to be followed are indeed followed.
Have you considered including a return on investment line in each of the audits that you complete? Not all of them are going to be winners. In business you don't win every time. But when I look at things like the payment system—Phoenix and others—I see that the return on investment can be humongous. In other places, where you're talking about a million dollar program, you might spend a lot of money in considering the program, but you still need to do that to ensure that the processes within those departments are actually being followed.