Why don't we allow our assistants to participate in the Zoom meeting with a closed camera? They could attend at the same time as us and hear the discussions as we go along so they can give us advice. Our assistants could be instructed to close their cameras. We would only see the people who are normally present at the meeting: the clerk, the analysts, and the MPs. That would be one way to deal with all the problems. We would also be able to see which assistants are present, in the same way that we can normally see who is attending our meetings when they are in person. If our employees attend the meeting by phone, we can't know that and we have no idea who is attending the meetings.