Evidence of meeting #1 for Public Accounts in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Angela Crandall
Dillan Theckedath  Committee Researcher

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

The next motion reads as follows:

That one copy of the transcript of each in camera meeting be kept in the committee clerk’s office for consultation by members of the committee or by their staff.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly Block

Are there any comments?

(Motion agreed to)

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

The next reads:

That a 48 hours’ notice, interpreted as two nights, shall be required for any substantive motion to be considered by the committee, unless the substantive motion relates directly to business then under consideration, provided that (1) the notice be filed with the clerk of the committee no later than 4:00 p.m. from Monday to Friday; that (2) the motion be distributed to members in both official languages by the clerk on the same day the said notice was transmitted if it was received no later than the deadline hour; and that (3) notices received after the deadline hour or on non-business days be deemed to have been received during the next business day and that when the committee is travelling on official business, no substantive motions may be moved.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly Block

Is there any discussion?

(Motion agreed to)

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

The next reads:

That, in relation to Orders of Reference from the House respecting Bills: (a) the clerk of the committee shall, upon the committee receiving such an Order of Reference, write to each member who is not a member of a caucus represented on the committee to invite those members to file with the clerk of the committee, in both official languages, any amendments to the Bill, which is the subject of the said Order, which they would suggest that the committee consider; (b) suggested amendments filed, pursuant to paragraph (a), at least 48 hours prior to the start of clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill to which the amendments relate shall be deemed to be proposed during the said consideration, provided that the committee may, by motion, vary this deadline in respect of a given Bill; and (c) during the clause-by-clause consideration of a Bill, the Chair shall allow a member who filed suggested amendments, pursuant to paragraph (a), an opportunity to make brief representations in support of them.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly Block

Is there any discussion?

(Motion agreed to)

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

The next reads:

That the committee Chair and staff be authorized to: review government responses to recommendations made by the committee during the 43rd Parliament; acknowledge by letter, on the committee’s behalf, receipt of government responses where they respond clearly and completely to recommendations or request further information or clarification, as required; monitor the implementation of government commitments made in response to committee recommendations, and request further information as required; and, report to the committee on these activities in a timely fashion.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly Block

Is there any discussion?

(Motion agreed to)

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

The next reads as follows:

That all organizations that have been subject to a performance audit or a special examination by the Office of the Auditor General of Canada provide a detailed action plan to address the audit recommendations which have been agreed to—including specific actions, timelines for their completion and responsible individuals—to the committee and the Office of the Auditor General of Canada within six months of the audit being tabled in the House of Commons.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly Block

Is there any discussion?

(Motion agreed to)

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

The next reads:

That organizations that are invited to appear before the committee to discuss the findings of an audit should provide an action plan to the committee no later than 48 hours prior to the hearing.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly Block

Is there any discussion?

(Motion agreed to)

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

The next reads:

That action plans and progress reports received by the committee be published on the committee's website.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly Block

Is there any discussion?

(Motion agreed to)

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

The next reads as follows:

That the clerk of the committee be authorized to purchase an appropriate gift to be presented to visiting delegations, and that the Chair report it to the committee.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly Block

Is there any discussion?

(Motion agreed to)

I want to apologize. I received some very good instructions from our clerk on providing instructions for how we would function virtually, and I neglected to look at my email after I was elected chair, so I will make sure to do that at the beginning of the next meeting.

I want to move to other business. I see there are no other routine motions.

Mr. Green.

11:30 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

My apologies, Madam Chair. It's not a routine motion, but I do have a motion that would have us reintroduce our invitations to past chairs of this committee to present to us, because that's where we left off prior to COVID, and we didn't meet during prorogation.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly Block

Are you putting that motion on notice, or are you hoping this committee would—

11:30 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

It's pertaining to the business. In my opinion, I would like the committee to revisit those past motions, and reinvite the past chairs as an orientation for new members to this committee on the processes and procedures of public accounts, because this particular committee functions in a highly specific way.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly Block

Madam Clerk, do I need unanimous consent to proceed with a motion at this time?

11:30 a.m.

The Clerk

No. Mr. Green has moved a motion, and the committee may consider it.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly Block

Mr. Green, do you have any further comments?

11:30 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

It's pretty self-evident. Most of the chairs from the various parties are coming. I know that my predecessor, Mr. David Christopherson, had decades of experience on this committee. We would all benefit hearing from the past wisdom of these committee chairs, because it is a unique committee that we're on, one that supersedes any kind of partisanship. We want to make sure that we have the best information during that transfer.

I was looking forward to it prior to COVID, quite frankly, but we didn't get to it. We have had so much time away, so I look forward to getting back to that business.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly Block

Is there any other discussion?

Mr. Berthold, please go ahead.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

I have no problem with the motion. I think it would help us.