Thank you, Chair.
The two-hour idea is good with me, as long as we get the wording of the motion. If you could read it out, Chair, that would be great, along with Mr. Berthold's idea of not having the workshops during the times of our scheduled meetings. I'm in full agreement with those ideas.
Also, if I may just pivot, Madam Chair, to the presenter this morning, I want to put out one question on the performance audits.
Are these audits looking at the outcomes of the program or at the program itself? If you could speak to that differentiation briefly, please, that would be amazing.