Thank you very much, Madam Chair.
Like my colleague Mr. Berthold, I wish Mr. Shugart a full and speedy recovery. As a resident in the national capital region for over 30 years, and as a member of Parliament, I've had the opportunity to work with Mr. Shugart many times. He's a public servant who has dedicated himself to providing services to the public. We wish him a full recovery.
I'd like to thank Ms. Sherman and Mr. Wallace for being with us and for their testimony. They spoke about the importance of changing not only the policies but also the culture in response to the Auditor General's report on information technology systems.
My first question is for Ms. Sherman.
As we know, changing policies and culture is difficult, but changing policies seems a little easier to me than changing the culture. You talked about the importance of the Clerk of the Privy Council's initiative. He encouraged the community of deputy ministers to better combat racism, and specifically anti-Black racism in the public service, to ensure that the richness of Canada's diversity is reflected at all levels of the public service.
Can you elaborate on what initiatives you think are necessary to ensure that Black Canadians are no longer discriminated against in the public service?