That's perfect.
I understand the sensitivities, especially for many who, through no fault of their own, just didn't understand it, or when there were miscommunications. I understand that, and I quite frankly agree with you that we want to be sensitive to that issue.
My challenge, though, is with those who are fraudulent. Hopefully there weren't that many of them. We're now a year in, and we have no idea how many fraudulent claims may have been made. I'm not talking about the person who misunderstood or the single mom trying to get by; I'm talking about the fraudster who may be a part of organized crime. Do we have any idea how many of them took CERB or what the leakage is there, a year into this?
As I said, in the case of the average Canadian who got confused, I certainly understand your sensitivity and I would actually encourage that, but for those who actually took it wilfully and took advantage of it, do we know how many people are out there and what steps we are taking to recover that money?