If we could pause there, has it not been the experience...? You're talking about municipal governments. You can give a municipality a hundred buses, but if there's no support for operations, municipalities will pass on this. In terms of transit, particularly investments in public transit, how often has it been the case or what is the uptake rate for municipalities to do capital investments in things like buses or LRTs and those types of things, absent supports from operational funding?
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