Certainly. I'll start off, Madam Chair, and maybe if my colleague Mr. Kennedy wishes to add something on the workforce, he can do that. I'll be quick.
When you think about the workforce, Madam Chair, you have to think about the white collar as well as the blue collar workforce. When people think about shipbuilding, their minds often jump to blue collar, but early on it was the white collar skills in engineering and naval architecture that had eroded and had to be effectively rebuilt. I think we've seen an increase in the skill sets there as we've gone through the first roughly 10 years or so of the shipbuilding strategy.
As you're now into a world of trying to avoid the boom and bust, you're really wanting to make sure there are no production gaps at the shipyard, so that you don't lose your workforce. If you end up downing tools, losing some workforce and then bringing them back, that leads to great inefficiency.
Some of the risks that are being managed right now are around ensuring that there are minimal production gaps between ships, so that a workforce that has become expert can be retained.