Mr. Matthews, I apologize for interrupting you.
You say that I am oversimplifying the situation. It is not complicated: there is a shipbuilding strategy, and the federal government is being asked to supply ships and icebreakers to the Canadian Coast Guard and the National Defence. Ten years later, we are realizing that there are delays, that risk-management programs are ineffective and that the Auditor General, in her report, although she does remain very nice and accepts all your recommendations, is very strict about this entire process, which has been ongoing for 10 years.
Canadians expect various services and departments—your department and National Defence—not to have to learn lessons for 10 years on how to deliver goods to Canadians when given a mandate like this one. Billions of dollars are involved. Do you know how many Canadians it takes to pay those amounts?
I don't like to say that I am simplifying. What I want to know is why, after 10 years, you are still saying that you are learning lessons.