I have it up here on my screen, and I'm not saying this as a gotcha, but what I'm trying to get at here is that we have these stated equity programs, these policies, by the government that are supposed to provide equity in our procurement. We are probably the biggest procurement entity in the country by far, and yet it seems as though the processes this government has in place, while well-meaning, offer us no meaningful outcomes to actually apply what's already here.
So for reference, if I'm to understand it correctly, for contracts worth over a million dollars, there are certain parameters that are supposed to be triggered that would help make our workforce more representative and make the business that the government does for the general public reflect that general public, including women. Actually, in fact, at this committee, we clearly defined it. If I may say so, Madam Chair, you'll recall that we worked in a very bipartisan manner to be very clear in our definition of what the “plus” meant: aboriginal people, persons with disabilities, members of visible minorities, and even subgroups, I believe, of the Black community.
If we have this program—and it's here under ESDC, under the labour programs—and we have procurement, where is the federal contractors program applied? Is it applied at all? Is it something that we as a government should just scrap because we're not using it?