Madam Chair, again, would the witness then not agree that if a program is meant to keep people employed and a company takes $100 billion from the public coffers—from taxpayer dollars, from workers paying into the taxpayers' coffers for this program—in the biggest-ever transfer of wealth from the general public to the private sector, it would be a failure of that program if companies took the wage subsidy and still laid people off? It's a simple question.