I'll have to get back to you with a specific number on interest and penalties during the pandemic. I certainly don't have that at my disposal.
As we talk about these issues, one of the things that we try to keep in mind here—and as we discuss it internationally—is differentiating between the types of transactions. We've talked about goods coming in, digital services and digital giants, so I think it's important to parse these and understand the components. I'll do my best to find the numbers that were referenced.