If you're meeting that often, Ms. Jeffrey, you must understand the frustration that Canadians must have and that members of Parliament must have when you've presented a situation where you're meeting in a room every single week and you still fail to address, one, the issues of cost; two, the issues of governance; and, three, finally, the ability to actually come to an agreement that sees some of these issues having fair oversight.
That to me seems like a very tenuous connection between what you think is good governance and what is truly poor governance. This is a dramatic failure, Ms. Jeffrey, and one that has cost Canadians millions of dollars. We cannot simply say that there were good intentions between the CBSA and the Public Health Agency of Canada. They met every week but failed to address the questions of governance and cost...? If what you're saying is true, then that has to be the case, or we're led to believe that this lack of governance went unquestioned and the nature of these meetings were really not ones of governance.... Which one is it?