Thank you for that.
I'm just going to address this from the chair, diplomatically.
On the first point, the Auditor General is independent but does certainly respond to Parliament. The ArriveCAN audit came after Parliament voted in favour of it, and I believe, in reading the tea leaves and in discussions with the OAG, that the auditor and the office also look to this committee for what I'll call guidance.
A motion that is passed unanimously by this committee is going to be given greater weight by the auditor than one that is split, but it is certainly not interference and it is certainly not inappropriate for Parliament or this committee to pass these motions. At the end of the day, Ms. Hogan will use her independence as she sees fit and pursue an audit or not. On that first point, that has been the custom. The Auditor General has spoken many times about her office receiving correspondence from individual parliamentarians and that's acceptable as well. It's something the office considers. For a parliamentary committee to weigh in is not out of bounds.
On your second point on this motion, I too want to hear from witnesses. That's why we worked so hard to get them here, but this motion is directed at the business at hand and it is in order. If it had not been.... We had a motion that came at the top of this meeting that I was felt was not, and it would have required UC. We didn't get that, so we moved on. However, I take your point, Mr. May, about that.
Are there any other speakers?
Mrs. Shanahan.