Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
Thanks again to all of our witnesses for being here today.
Mr. Rochon, I'm going to ask you some questions. I understand that the committee heard testimony yesterday from Dany Richard, who is, of course, the president of the Association of Canadian Financial Officers. In his testimony, he said that when outside consultants and firms are hired, employees are still left to do most of the work, as those consultants come to the public service employees for their work to be verified and for their final reports to be done. This was something that the union representing CBSA officers presented on ArriveCAN, saying that they frequently were required to act as technical support.
I hear that, and I'd like you to clarify for the committee whether it is the position of the Government of Canada that we should be overpaying for consultants and contracts and then, simultaneously, underpaying the unionized workers who then also administer and verify the final products and reports? I guess perhaps you could even comment a bit on whether or not you think it's fair that the expert members of our public service unions are frequently told that there's no more money to pay their wages and then are left with the residual work of companies who have made these millions and millions of dollars in contracts.