First of all, I'm extremely concerned by Mr. Richard's comments yesterday. I'm not disputing them, to be fair.
I've operated for over 30 years in the financial community of the Government of Canada. I can assure you that when I had something to say, regardless of my level as a junior officer, I said it.
Mr. Richard yesterday said it, I think, very correctly, in the sense that you should be talking to your supervisor. If you feel that your supervisor is not reacting, then there are ways that you can go above your supervisor to the next level up if there's something that you feel very strongly about.
As I said, my experience, at least in the organizations I ran, was that the door was always open. I think it was made very clear that people could actually speak up.
I'm going to have a chat—I guarantee you that—with Mr. Richard, because if there are some people we have an issue with, we need to figure out what we're going to do with them. We also need to make sure that the community and the people operating in these communities understand.... He was talking about the financial management community, but I'm extrapolating that to the procurement communities and so on.
People who are experts in their field have to have the space to raise their hand if they have something to say.