I'm going to jump in. Thank you. You'll have a chance to respond again.
Since the pandemic started, there have been four Liberal ministers of procurement—Anita Anand, Filomena Tassi, Helena Jaczek and now Jean-Yves Duclos. That's four ministers in about four years. Is it reasonable to assume that all four of them had been briefed about either ArriveCAN or the ArriveCAN project before it had that name? In the process of engaging ministers, are they actually providing policy direction? Are they raising concerns about aspects of the process?
You talked a lot about ministers being briefed about things. I would expect that it's not just a one-way dialogue where you're telling the spokesman for the department what to say if it comes up in the House of Commons. They're actually providing some kind of direction or raising concern about things they're hearing. Can I assume that all four were briefed, to some extent, at certain points in time? At what points did they offer responses, raise policy concerns and suggest adjustments in direction?