Absolutely, Mr. Chair.
Anyway, I did want to speak to this motion, which is a motion about asking the minister of the Treasury Board to come before this committee to answer for what happened in the arrive scam scandal. We've heard some discussion, even at today's meeting, about this issue of ministerial accountability. Are ministers accountable? To what extent are ministers accountable for what happens in their government?
As far as I can discern, the best defence that Liberal members can muster of the government's action in the context of the arrive scam scandal is to try to convince us that ministers of the Crown do absolutely nothing, that four ministers of procurement since this pandemic started were not involved in setting policies, making decisions and giving direction as it relates to procurement.