I'm sitting here, after 20 years of findings from my office across four different reports, and showing you that the housing gap persists. It's clear to me that in those 20 years, which is really an entire generation of indigenous people, the improvement in housing hasn't been concrete.
It is time to rethink the approach, but I would tell you that it extends beyond just housing. There are previous audit reports I have issued on safe drinking water, on emergency preparedness, on access to health practitioners and on the first nations and Inuit policing program. They all have the exact same model: They are within a certain federal entity and a community needs to apply to multiple programs to access funding. That isn't really supporting, in my view, reconciliation and self-determination, where you really need to understand the needs, the cultures and the traditions of communities and tailor how you support them.
It's not just about resourcing programs and providing funding, but about ensuring that there's a transfer to first nations communities, and we're not seeing progress in that transfer, at least through these two programs, toward self-determination.