In this report and this example of one of the ministries, it suggests that, “The Canada Border Services Agency relied heavily on external resources, which increased ArriveCAN’s costs”. You just mentioned that there was an issue related to the markups of subcontractors. That's certainly one of the issues that the Auditor General made clear, in addition to some security challenges.
In addition to that, we haven't seen any kind of information that would suggest that outsourcing is decreasing or that the level of risk to Canadians is reducing.
Can you confirm to us the total value of outsourced contracts you conducted in your own ministry this last fiscal year? If you can provide information related to the period of time stemming back from 2008, and supply it to this committee in writing, I will also request that.