Mr. Chair, to the previous question on the number of contracts, in February this year we had 243 IT consultants working in CBSA, and as of May we have 175—I undertook to get those numbers.
We are making a concerted effort to do a knowledge transfer and have a plan for all the work we are doing by virtue of having consultants there, and what the long-term plan is. We will always have consultants. It wouldn't be economical or feasible to hire across the agency all of the depth of IT talent we need. Some people we need to come in quickly. As I said, we have people who know computer languages but who don't really want to work for government. They're retired. We need their expertise. Again, there too we're looking in quite a concerted way to do a knowledge transfer and do that work ourselves.