My role was a little different at the Treasury Board. For context for the committee, where I worked in the Treasury Board was more of a policy organization—setting policies, standards and directives for the rest of the public service to follow—so we didn't typically procure any goods per se. However, in order to do my job properly and set forth a forward-looking cybersecurity strategy for all of government, it was incumbent upon me to understand where the industry was heading, how technology was evolving and so forth, so that was the general gist of the interactions with Mr. Firth. We didn't really discuss subcontracting or any of those things you asked about.
