Five years ago, but that's not my question. With all due respect, you were a deputy minister, and as a former minister in New Brunswick, I can tell you that deputy ministers have a wish list, sometimes 20 or 30 years long. They march them into your office as soon as you get there, knowing that you might be just a little bit green and naive and that you might bite the bullet on something they've been trying to get done for decades.
In the first four years of your being a deputy minister while this administration was in power, how did they sit with your Crown corporation idea? Who did you take it to? Who turned it down? Who was against it? Why?