It's pretty clear in the Conflict of Interest Act with regard to public office holders. It says, “No public office holder shall make a decision or participate in making a decision related to the exercise of an official power”. When almost half the money going out the door is conflicted amounts in terms of the government-appointed board members, that is not one person leaving the room and there's an exception. It's actually the rule. They're all working and getting conflicts, and it's the culture that causes a problem.
Mr. Kennedy, were you aware that the previous person who was on there, ADM Noseworthy, had asked a previous serving chair, while he was serving as an observer on the board, for a job?