I hear that. You're taking the fifth.
I want to know, then, going forward.... These five directors feather-bedded maybe almost as much as $400 million to companies they had financial interests in. I was able to find out through the Internet, on my own, about $150 million of it. It's readily available on public sources.
I want to know that, in going forward in your new world with this, one, we will ensure that we try to get some of that back and, two, that the fund, under NRC control, will not have business with the companies that these people have already taken a huge amount of money for in abusing their public position for their own interest—they will be banned.
I don't buy.... Because there was no chair of this fund in its 20 years before Annette Verschuren, who had a conflict, I don't buy that you can't find people without a conflict to put on the board. That's a failure. I want to know, going forward, will you ensure that they no longer get to skim taxpayer money anymore from this fund, when they've gotten almost $400 million already?