No. I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that many of the day-to-day functions that we might otherwise be directly involved in are actually being run by a third party at some distance from us.
We agree with the Auditor General and we agree with the findings of the reports. The lesson is that we can't be relying even on a well-regarded board to always follow its own processes and procedures and to be fully transparent with us when they find problems. We actually have to be doing more checking—