The correction I should make is that my former director general and my senior director were at that meeting. It's not two directors general, just to be clear.
On December 15, my director general had been on vacation. She insisted that the title of the meeting be “Meeting with CBSA”. I have in writing, from an ATIP, that they had started receiving information from CBSA on December 11, I think it was. They had asked that I attend this meeting because it was extremely important. It was on a Friday, if I'm not mistaken. She called me and told me I had no choice but to go. I went because she was my director general. Again, I'm a mid-level to low-level employee.
If you listen to the tape—I'm going to provide a copy because Mr. Brock asked for it—you will hear for yourself that she says, “Oh, Diane, Diane, are you being threatened? Oh, do you feel intimidated?” She said, “Well, we can attend that meeting with you, but you have to go. It's not an option.”