Well, let's back it up to the start of the interruptions, and we'll take the full 45.
Ms. Daly, Ms. Khalid has gone to great pains to try to say that it's not her government that's responsible for the $60-million fiasco of arrive scam, which saw Liberal insiders getting paid while Canadians had to pay for it. They want to lay the blame at the feet of yourself and other public servants at your level.
Is the minister not ultimately responsible for what happens in the department—yes or no?