It is the policy, then, of this Prime Minister's Office that appointing people with known conflicts of interest and whose companies have a financial interest in the company they're being appointed to—the Crown agency, with taxpayers' money.... That conflict is okay with this Prime Minister's Office. It's basically breaking what appears to be not only the word and intent of the Conflict of Interest Act, but the SDTC act, which say that not only the real conflict, but the appearance of conflict cannot happen; you cannot personally benefit from being on these boards.
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