I appreciate that.
I just want to help understand.... Besides what MP Brock said, I think it's really important to understand that when Ms. Verschuren was appointed with her “managed” conflicts, as a testimony, Leah Lawrence, the president, said, “There was a board member pre-2019” who had “stepped back from the organization” to recuse himself. “Later...[when] Ms. Verschuren was appointed—it was about a year after she was appointed—that individual came back and said, 'Well, given that direct conflicts are now allowed, I'm going to go on the board of this organization'” that was funding a company he was going for.
Now, I asked her who that was, and she said that it was Guy Ouimet, who was another PCO recommendation, presumably. He was a GIC appointment. Guy Ouimet loved the conflict allowance so much that, while he was on the board, $16.2 million of taxpayer money went to companies he had a conflict of interest in and an investment in. He even admitted that he voted for one of them—in committee. He voted for $4 million to a company he owned, so it doesn't seem like the process that the Prime Minister's Office has set up in it's clear and transparent way works when trying to prevent people from abusing taxpayer dollars in this way.
Why is it that the PCO doesn't seem to monitor conflicts of interest once they appoint these people to the board who declare they have a conflict?