My last question is in relation to the COVID payments, which I think Mr. Cooper overstated. However, my understanding from the AG report is that it's 63 approvals in a bundle for about $12 million—regardless, a significant sum of public funds. We have one case where the Ethics Commissioner has now found that there was an improper furtherance of a private interest, because the chair did not recuse herself—as she said she would, actually, when she was first put in that position.
Regardless, what was the legal advice? I've heard that different legal advice has been provided, and so people weren't recusing themselves at that time. What in the world was the lawyer telling you, that a recusal wasn't necessary? What was the legal rationale?