Evidence of meeting #140 for Public Accounts in the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was ouimet.
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Conservative
John Nater Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON
To clarify, then, are you of the opinion that this was the same individual—Witness 1—who testified before this committee, or was it a different individual?
September 23rd, 2024 / 1:05 p.m.
As an Individual
As I stated in my opening comments, it appeared to be different, just because of the tonality of voice. There was something in the voice of the two individuals that appeared to be very different to me. That is why I made the statement that I did.
Conservative
John Nater Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON
Thank you for the clarification.
As a last question on this matter.... You did note that you made contemporaneous notes of that conversation. Would you be willing to provide to this committee the notes from your conversation ?
As an Individual
If the committee requested them, I would happily turn them over.
Conservative
John Nater Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON
I personally would request it as a member of this committee, but we can deal with that as a committee later.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative John Williamson
Let me just pause there. I don't think that's necessary.
Is that something you're prepared to do, Mr. Kukucha, on the request, or would you prefer that we pass a motion on that?
As an Individual
Mr. Chair, I'm not sure of the law around being compelled to provide information to a parliamentary committee versus my former duties as a board member. I'd need to either seek legal counsel on that or defer to your passing a motion to require that.
I'm prepared to do whatever this committee requires me to do.
Conservative
Conservative
Conservative
Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Kukucha, how much was your initial investment in Terramera?
Conservative
As an Individual
I do not know. This is a private company. I'm cautious, because it's a private Canadian company trying to do good work. I know that they went through a split of some sort. I could not tell you what that's worth today, but—
Conservative
Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS
How about Rotoliptic? What was your initial investment there?
Conservative
As an Individual
Again, as it is a private company, I do not know the valuation of that, and I would not want to speculate.
Let me say that I think both companies have seen challenges over the last couple of years. Like anything with venture capital, these are risky investments.
Conservative
Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS
Okay.
How much was your initial investment in Ecoation Innovative Solutions?
Conservative
Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS
I assume that it's the same thing on current valuation.
Conservative
Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS
Okay.
Mr. Chair, I would like to move a motion right now, if I could.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative John Williamson
Just hold on while I deal with this matter with Mr. Kukucha.
Mr. Kukucha, here's how we generally proceed. The request was put to you. You seemed agreeable. Could you check, then, on your ability to provide us those notes? If you cannot for legal reasons, please get back to us. As I'm sure you know, the committee can move to have you submit them, which then elevates it. There are other steps after that. We don't normally go from zero to 60 at first blush. We don't typically need to do that.
As I said, you seemed to be agreeable. If you can provide those notes or get back to us with a detailed explanation as to why you cannot, would that be agreeable for now?
Conservative
The Chair Conservative John Williamson
Thank you very much. That matter is settled for now.
Mr. Perkins, you have the floor, please.