I report to ADM Dominic Laporte. I'm a director general. Specifically—earlier statements were made—I'm an EX-03 and Ms. Daly is a PG-05. There would be a senior director, an EX-02, between me and then a manager and then Ms. Daly.
To get back to an earlier question, in an instance in which there would be something out of the ordinary on a human resources file, something that I do on a regular basis is to actually meet with my employees, even if they are several levels below me, when something as important as an investigation, for instance, is happening. For example, when I know that somebody is going through something difficult in their personal life, I would make a point of meeting with them and making sure that they understand that they're supported by their organization. That's why I would meet with a person like Ms. Daly on an occasion like an investigation by a different department on something as high profile as ArriveCAN.