Mr. Chair, my point is that I've read the transcript from Mr. Bains's appearance at the INDU committee. In the last six minutes, I have not learned anything new from Mr. Perkins's questioning other than the fact that they will interrupt Mr. Bains and they will ask them a yes-or-no question, knowing full well that he does not know the answer because SDTC is arm's length, and it's always been arm's length. The idea that the minister has direct control over the decisions and the financial decisions—
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