The fact is that we're questioning whether or not Mr. Bains' testimony to questions the opposition was asking was satisfactory. He perhaps didn't know the answers. I would love to question everybody in testimony on what happened eight years ago. I'm sorry, but that is not a question of privilege.
Time and time again, we have heard in different testimony that ministers or ministers' offices were not involved in the day-to-day operations of SDTC. We have heard it time and time again, and they're still not believing that.