Public Accounts Committee on Oct. 9th, 2024

[Iqra Khalid, Liberal, Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON]

I'm not speaking for him. I'm just trying to say that as this bogus motion has been put before us—

[The Chair, Conservative, John Williamson]

Ms. Khalid, please stop. I have not cut off Mr. Drouin, so you're arguing with yourself.

[Iqra Khalid, Liberal, Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON]

I'm arguing with you, Chair, not with myself.

[The Chair, Conservative, John Williamson]

I have asked Mr. Drouin to provide this trail. I will correct....

Since you raised it, members have huge latitude when it comes to questioning witnesses, but when it comes to debating a motion, we debate the motion at hand. That's all I'm looking to enforce here.

Mr. Drouin, you have the floor.

[Francis Drouin, Liberal, Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON]

Thank you.

Why Mr. Bains was invited here is important.

Again, with regard to SDTC, I don't need to read the entire letter into the record. All I can say is that the commissioner has clearly said, “There is significant risk that the Motion could be interpreted as a circumvention of normal investigative processes and Charter protections.”

It has everything to do with the fact that we are trying to get to the bottom of this, and you, sir, are potentially impeding an RCMP investigation.

[The Chair, Conservative, John Williamson]

The chairman is doing no such thing.

[Rick Perkins, Conservative, South Shore—St. Margarets, NS]

I have a point of order.

[The Chair, Conservative, John Williamson]

I would ask you to direct your comments through the chair.

Mr. Perkins, do you have a short and relevant point of order?

[Rick Perkins, Conservative, South Shore—St. Margarets, NS]

No.

[The Chair, Conservative, John Williamson]

Very good.

Mr. Brock.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

On the same point of order, I have a great deal of respect for my Liberal colleague Mr. Drouin, but I would seriously caution him about the language he just used to imply criminality with respect to my colleague Mr. Perkins. I know he appreciates and has parliamentary privilege, but this is dangerous territory.

I warn Mr. Drouin to reflect upon that moving forward.

[Iqra Khalid, Liberal, Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON]

I have a point of privilege, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Conservative, John Williamson]

Why don't we just leave it?

Mr. Drouin, I would ask that in this room, with colleagues at work shoulder to shoulder, you be generous, as you would hope.... Live by the golden rule.

[Iqra Khalid, Liberal, Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON]

Chair, I literally heard Mr. Brock threaten Mr. Drouin, and I don't appreciate that.

[The Chair, Conservative, John Williamson]

I did not hear that.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

I did not threaten him.

I have a point of order, Chair.

[The Chair, Conservative, John Williamson]

The chair will sustain your point before you make it, Mr. Brock.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

I cautioned. I did not threaten.

[The Chair, Conservative, John Williamson]

I did not hear that. It was....

[Iqra Khalid, Liberal, Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON]

Cautioning with those terms is definitely a threat.

[The Chair, Conservative, John Williamson]

Mr. Drouin, you have the floor.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

Listen to what he had to say.

[Iqra Khalid, Liberal, Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON]

Look at how you're pointing at him. Poor guy. Why are you doing this?

[The Chair, Conservative, John Williamson]

I will suspend for two minutes, which just means the time is going to get added to the clock.

We shall return in two minutes.

[The Chair, Conservative, John Williamson]

We'll bring this meeting back to order.

Mr. Drouin.