If it's just an up or down vote and we've passed this motion that it's to our satisfaction, to someone's satisfaction or to another's.... It's obviously not to Mr. Perkins' satisfaction to hear “I don't recall”, even though I think that's not even close to a breach of privilege.
These are different standards we're dealing with, which I think we ought to be clear on.
I'm perfectly happy if the goal is to come back and have a full-on debate after he's testified for two hours as to whether there's a breach of privilege. We can have at it all over again. So be it. However, I think the language of this motion as it is right now goes a bit further than that. Maybe we can amend it down to something that lets us get to where I think we all agree we need to go.