Evidence of meeting #144 for Public Accounts in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.

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Navdeep Bains  As an Individual
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Ariane Calvert

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Williamson

Mr. Drouin, this is not a point of order.

Francis Drouin Liberal Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

Well, it would be thrown out of court if this were a real court. This is a kangaroo court.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Williamson

As government members are prone to remind this committee, we are not a court. This is a question and answer session.

Francis Drouin Liberal Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

We'll quote that.

Thank you so much.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Williamson

I've said that before, many times. It is not a court. We're here to ask questions and receive answers.

Mr. Cooper, you may proceed.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Mr. Bains, did the other five candidates have conflicts of interest, as Ms. Verschuren did, yes or no?

Navdeep Bains

It's important to note that all public office-holders must respect and follow the Conflict of Interest Act.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

You were advised that Ms. Verschuren had a conflict of interest and appointed her anyway. I'm asking you about the other five candidates. You refuse to answer. I take it they didn't have conflicts of interest. You appointed someone with a conflict, because you don't give a damn about conflicts of interest.

Isn't that right?

5:15 p.m.

As an Individual

Navdeep Bains

During my tenure, I made over 100 Governor in Council recommendations. It's important that all individuals who are recommended and ultimately appointed follow the Conflict of Interest Act.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

You knew she had a conflict of interest. You didn't give a damn—

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Williamson

That is the time, Mr. Cooper.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

—and, as a result, $400 million taxpayer dollars went out the door improperly following that conflict-ridden appointment.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Williamson

Mr. Cooper, I will remind you—as I was reminded today in the House— that we use parliamentary language in this committee room.

Ms. Khalid, you have the floor for four minutes.

Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON

Thank you very much, Chair.

As much as I appreciate my opposition colleagues trying to get their clips for the Russian Rebel News, I have some serious questions to ask our witness here today.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

On a point of order, here we go again with—

Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON

It's the Russian Rebel News.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

—yet another Liberal who is trying to associate—

Francis Drouin Liberal Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

That's debate.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

—the Conservative Party of Canada with the Russian administration.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Williamson

Mr. Brock.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

There were members in the House—

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Williamson

Mr. Brock, whoa.

I heard what was said by the member, and it has nothing to do with the Conservative Party. This is not a point of order. Even if it were, I'm ruling in your side's favour.

I'm going to give the floor back to Ms. Khalid, unless you actually have a genuine, new point of order.

Francis Drouin Liberal Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

I have a point of order, Chair.

I would invite Mr. Brock to look at—

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Williamson

No, no.

Francis Drouin Liberal Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

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