That effectively would apply to all board members and not just Ms. Verschuren. Anyone who would have had a conflict would have been in that same boat when it's simply being agreed to. There are all these things, and they're conflicted, but here they are.
Is it effectively the case that any of the board members who had a conflict would have been in that same spot? Were they effectively just giving a wink and a nod, and things were being approved?