I want to get to the 25 cases. We have 63 cases of those 90 that were the bundled COVID payments. Two cases in which the individual should not have been involved relate to an external expert reviewer.
With respect to the board, you have 25 additional cases in which directors participated in discussions and voted to approve funding, according to the Auditor General, despite having previously declared a conflict. Half of those directors, according to the Auditor General, said that there was no further conflict or that they did in fact recuse themselves.
With respect to those 25 cases, should Canadians have any concern? You obviously found two ethics violations with Ms. Verschuren. Should Canadians have concern in those 25 cases that anything warrants further investigation?