We have discussed this previously, but again, in that set of circumstances, I did say before and I would say again that it was a best practice that she was referred to the office. The Ethics Commissioner's report talks about the fact that she spent a fair amount of time with the office going through her personal circumstances to make sure that she would be aligned with the legislation and could have mitigation measures put in place for her conflict of interest.
As we've talked about here.... I know the Ethics Commissioner was here earlier in the week, and he and his office emphasized, as I would emphasize again, that all the tools were in place to protect the board members. Those, unfortunately, were just not adhered to, and they actually did not get very good legal advice.
We do warn candidates that, ultimately, the Ethics Commissioner is the adjudicator and the administrator of the act and has final word on conflicts of interest. That's where they should have gone to get any source of nuance in terms of how to deal with some of the issues that they were facing as board members, not outside legal counsel.