Mr. Chair, I'm listening to my honourable colleagues on the other side. Again, I respect the process we're in here today. These people were before committee not too long ago. Why are they here again today? I'm still trying to figure out what the opposition is trying to get out of these witnesses, knowing full well that the appointment that was made had the same objective as Mr. Perkins' did. They both donated to a Conservative potential leader contestant.
The idea that this is a green slush fund with a bunch of Liberals is idiotic.
It's silly. It's stupid. Mr. Perkins doesn't even want to listen to the answers anymore. He left the table. He isn't even here anymore. The truth is, he has been—