Mr. Bains, you may not be aware—because you weren't working hard for the next leader of the Conservative Party—but obviously Ms. Verschuren did the same thing that Mr. Perkins did on the other side. Both donated the same amount to a Conservative candidate. The idea that this was a Liberal hack connected to Liberals—I can't buy it. I don't know many Liberals who are donating to the Conservative Party of Canada.
Regardless of that, I want to talk about governance.
You've talked often about how in SDTC or in any government agencies, whether it's the minister of PSPC.... The idea that the minister of PSPC, for instance, would be involved in daily operations at Canada Post is ridiculous.
How much time did you spend...or did you have any sign-offs on SDTC on a contribution agreement that they would have signed with a client that they had done business with?