I've stated on a number of occasions, including in my opening remarks, that Sustainable Development Technology Canada is an arm's-length organization. It has an independent board that oversees the day-to-day operations of management. It ultimately determines how the monies will be allocated. This is a decision it makes independently. That's how this is structured.
As you've highlighted, the minister is responsible for appointing seven of the 15 board members, but ultimately the board oversees their conduct.
With respect to the whole notion of conflict of interest that's been raised on a number of occasions, I understand the question that's being raised, but the onus is on all public office holders to engage with the Ethics Commissioner with regard to any real or perceived conflicts of interest. That is the way many public office holders conduct themselves, and that is my understanding of what Ms. Verschuren did before she was appointed as chair.