Thank you, Mr. Chair.
It's evident, and I sort of did it in the questioning, that I believe these two witnesses are key in discovering the reporting on the 82% of conflicts when Mr. Noseworthy was in every board meeting and directly responsible to report, and the former minister claims he was unaware of anything that was going on. This surprises me. Why else would an ADM be there?
Second, I think the former CEO can shed some light on this appointment process, since, as the leader of the organization, she was involved in the communications and the discussions between the minister's office and the ADM on the appointment and selection process for this particular chair, Ms. Verschuren.
I know the Ethics Commissioner's report says two, but when he was questioned at this committee, his office admitted there were actually 24 conflicts that were rolled up under two categories. That's for those who haven't taken the time to read his testimony.
I think it's important, in trying to get to the bottom of this, that we have these two witnesses before the committee, whom we haven't had appear.