Thank you, Mr. Chair.
That's two refusals. I'll move on.
You mentioned the phone calls to Annette Verschuren. As you know, I asked you about them before. In your opening statement, you said you didn't recall them, which is what you said before. It's hard for me to believe that you don't recall them. The former president of SDTC testified before our committee that you called her twice.
I will ask you now, as I did the last time: Did you call her twice? Answer yes or no.